Where to park near the Palace Square. Fortress Parking

  • 10.11.2019

A hare island, from where Petersburg began, today reminds lively crossroads.

Under the walls of the Petropavlovsk fortress, several parking were organized, traffic jams are formed at the Kronverk Bridge, and the tourists sink between cars that manage to travel even to the gate, to the territory where the paving slaves are posted. The museum management explains it by the workload of the streets that are not in their competence.

To get to the territory of the fortress on the wooden Kronverki bridge in the ribbon summer day is not easy. Narrow sidewalks on both sides of the bridge do not accommodate all pedestrians, on the carriage of the bumper to the bumper are cars and excursion buses. The correspondent of "New" watched, as because of the unsuccessful reversal, the bus, which came down from the bridge toward the fortress, formed a huge tube - cars sent to the departure, folded the side mirrors and squeezed in several centimeters from the wetter. Behind, on the asphalt road along the Kronverk duct, there were an impatient drivers, tourists were again raped in the middle of this porridge.


On Kostya

Asphalting of the territory of the Petropavlovsk fortress and the opening of the parking lots here at the end of zero was accompanied by a scandal. According to archival data, after the revolution, mass executions were made in the fortress, including civilians, since there was a liquidation prison. From 1917 to 1920, more than a thousand people could be shot here, and here, on the shore, from the fortress wall to the descent to water, they are buried.

But the museum's management, trying to multiply the number of visitors, laid asphalt contrary to the protests of historians and archaeologists, who proved that the remains of the victims of a red terror lie in the Earth. Building buckets stopped only when pulled into light skulls with bullet holes. However, the work stopped for a while: a narrow asphalt track, rarely free from transport, now stretches along the Kronverk Strait and ends in the parking lot.

"It is absolutely clear that this track passes from the part of the necropolis of a shot period Civil War"I am sure the chairman of the St. Petersburg branch of the All-Russian Society for the Protection of Monuments and Culture Alexander Margolis.

Until now, there is a question under the lively road, the remains of the victims of a red terror and how many there remains open. The museum against excavations do not have anything, but they want those who want to continue the search for the remains presented the evidence that they are there.

"For example, the archaeologist Kildyushevsky did not give us a single document that would justify further work," said Julia Demidenko's deputy director. Currently, by order of the museum, anthropological examination of the bones found earlier, but even their future is foggy: they are stored in the walls of the fortress, but for now, no one thinks how to get buried and perpetuate the memory of the dead.


On the bridge

"We will lose tourists if we force them to walk with your feet," Sergey Kondratyev, Deputy Director of the Museum on General Affairs, is confident. He does not consider it a critical and recalls times the domain of cars in the territory of his fortress, when tourist buses were parked against Nevsky Prospect.

As for the Kronverk bridge, to look at which today and sorry and a little scary - its wooden foundations are exposed daily pressure in thousands of tons, - then Kondratyev is very categorical: "This is a federal object that is not included in our responsibility. We can neither expand it nor to increase. "

In August 2015, there was information that the "Mostotrest" acknowledged the Kronverk Bridge of the emergency, and some of his elements were rotated by 80 percent. In September, Vice-Governor Igor Albin convened a meeting on the fate of the bridge, where he invited representatives of four committees (transport, urban planning, cultural and protection of monuments) and demanded work on the elimination of accidents until June 1, 2016. So, an uneven hour did not happen .


According to one of the participants in this meeting, the chairman of the Konstantin Suchenko culture committee, partial repair was made to make the bridge to work. For transport, the limitations of 7 tons per axle were installed. Now not all buses may drive there, only biaxial, prohibited the passage of heavy freight transport.

By the way, at the meeting attended by the deputy director of Gmi Sergey Kondratyev. In a conversation with the "new", he did not mention this word, insisting on the fact that the opportunity to get to the fortress on the motor transport is an unconditional benefit for citizens and tourists.

It is worth noting that the excursion buses usually weigh 13.5-19 tons. At the same time, two buses and several cars can stand on the Kronverkim crossing, so that the prospects for the monument of federal significance are not rainbow.

Igor Albin, in turn, believes that the situation today is not so dramatic. "Mostotrest" from October to January conducted a bridge repair without full closure of movement. Replaced wooden supports, changed the upper layer of flooring, the connection between the beams and spans, restored the adjoining of asphalt to the bridge. Well, naturally, they have been treated with an antiseptic. About 10 million rubles spent these goals. These priority counter-emergency measures allow us to operate the bridge now. "Further, we have a program of design and survey and construction work until 2018. I will try to speed up the process as much as possible, because I understand what load is being taken by the Petropavlovsk fortress, "the vice-governor assured.

Entry to the territory of the fortress of passenger cars costs car owners in two hundred rubles, tourist buses - in three hundred. Museum and city do not badly earn. At the same time, the purpose of visiting a motorist at the box office is not interested. For 200 rubles you can leave your horse for the whole day: from nine in the morning until eleven in the evening. It is unlikely that at least one parking lot in the city center can offer such conditions. And if in the near future it will appear on the Kronverk Prospect paid parking (60 rubles per hour), then "Museum Lovers" among St. Petersburg car owners will noticeably gain.

Dear forum users, especially the indigenous inhabitants of the Northern Capital, please tell me how to be with parking in St. Petersburg?
And especially you are interested in such places: the arrow of the Vasilyevsky Island - we want a night-night photo session there (a weekday), so it is very important to know where you can leave the car? (paid parking also consider)
1. How to get to Peterhof? We stop at the hotel in Kurlyandskaya, 35. (on the car is better or by public transport, if the public is helpful with the regime) - again we are talking about a weekday, morning, we want to come there for nine.
2. The royal village, the question is the same, if on the car, can they be able to part somewhere?
3. Hermitage is a parking issue.
4. Waterpark - Primorsky Ave., 72 - Parking Question?
5. Where better to see the divorce bridges? Again to be where to leave the car in closeness.
6. Where in the evenings you can arrange a beautiful photo session and walk?
7. We also have a ride on the way of life ( memorial complexes) Tell me how to go to miss anything? Purely on the highway road life?

1. With Kurneda on the car better. There S. public transport Not very much. And if you go in the morning, then just against the main stream of machines that go to the city at this time.
About parking is not aware, but in the center with them very bad. Especially in the center, the Hermitage and Arrow.

Good afternoon Margarita. Greetings to you on this forum. As I said, parking in the center of St. Petersburg is a glible business and a problem. There is such a topic there is something named and there are links to sites with addresses of paid parking. Unfortunately, they are all far from the center.
1. I already wrote you - it is possible by car and there around to look for parking, where - wrote or place where to put. If you go with the navigator, look, there is an Alexandrian highway along the park. In fact, this is a narrow street on which buses are also parked. I think on a weekday you can chant the car, free and without security. There is no sense to come to 9 in the morning, because Start of the main fountains at 11 am, daily.
2. In the royal village, near the parks and palaces there was parking on the Ferms highway, not far from the Alexander Palace - see the map.
3.Thude without options - ride circles and somewhere to look. In Nevsky is prohibited and stopping.
4.The it is better, I think the place can be found, and the shopping center has parking and somewhere near the streets.
5. The divorce of the bridges look from the Palace Embankment, the challenges with parking are the same - ride and search. At night, there may be a place on unguarded free on the stable area.
6. The city center around the Neva and in the Nevsky area lives and works all night. Watch, see, choose. You can climb the colonnade at night St. Isaac's CathedralYou can just walk along the embankments. Just do not go to the other bank of the Neva, but it is stuck until the morning.
7. There, most complexes are simply monuments and memorials - look outside. Ladoga bridge (this is far from the city, towards the lake, there is a memorial and there Dirama. But, it works, in my opinion, only for excursions on request. Http://www.soldaty.spb.ru/index.php? id \u003d 47 It will take, almost, day. I recommend, if you go, first clarify by phone.
If the blockade theme is interested, you can visit the Piskarevsky cemetery, a monument to the heroic defenders of Leningrad at Art. Moscow and Museum of Defense and Blockade in Salt Lane.

In the evening you can try to leave the car for the building of the Exchange on the Arrow V.O.
And why in Peterhof to 9 o'clock? The park opens in 10, the fountains begin to work in 11. Ride simply - with Kourneda turn right through the Old Peterhof highway through Owl channel And the stachek area leave for the avenue of the strikes and on it, without turning away, go to Peterhof himself.
About the royal village to explain for a long time, but there is a navigator?
There is no parking in the Hermitage, unless it is by chance somewhere around the singing bridge.
Waterpark is Pierland. There is free parking under the complex itself.
It is necessary to watch with the Palace or Admiralty Embankment, then go home to go home. But with parking, again ambush - there will be many buses and the same wishing.
A photo session can be arranged in a seaside park or near the Cross Island overlooking the bay. The park itself is closed at night, but you can walk along the shore.
On the way of life - again, without GPS, do not tell. But riding kilometers 40 from you.

Your question about river walks. I do not advise. Now they are strongly regulated by law. In Neva, it is impossible to log in after midnight. Therefore, all vessels are forced to go out before and blinking in the Neva to 1 - 30 nights, when the bridge divorces begins and then you will fall out or at the descent with lions next to Palace Bridge Or the copper rider is opposite St. Isaac's Cathedral. Tickets without problems are bought and right before traveling or during the day. There are no parking there, if only in St. Isaac's area there is a parking lot on the blue bridge before the building of the Legal Assembly. It's easier and more interesting to look from the shore, moving along the embankments as needed.

P.3 Near the Hermitage, there are few places near the organizing garden, but there are rarely free, opposite the Hermitage on the embankment can be standing, but now there is a tour (Walk to the Hermitage in a beautiful street). You can stand on the English embankment, if you go from the palace in the direction of the Blagoveshchensky bridge, a small parking opposite the copper rider, and further on the embankment behind the intersection, but look at the signs - there are restrictions. You can also stand on the Admiralty Avenue, there can usually find a place if you go from Nevsky. There are parking space near St. Isaac's Cathedral.
But everywhere look at the signs - evacuators are tasty there.
Clause 4 Walk to underground parking - there is always places.
P.5 see clause 3.
On the arrow in try on the Mendeleev line, stock exchange, on the university embankment, in the evening, when there are no students, places should be.

P.2 There is a paid parking, quite expensive. All parks free on the streets of small and medium. Look on the map. Closer to the park. On a weekday, of course, easier.

P.7 The idea to go on the road of life to the Museum of the Museum in Ladoga is excellent. Read my review about this trip.
https://www.otzyv.ru/read.php?id\u003d173282.
I, when I went there, enjoyed the navigator. At first, the address of Vsevolozhsk, life is the road, a house (for example) 1. Just for a guideline. Keep in mind that there is no congress on this track, as it may seem on the map. She goes on the bridge over the Cad.
Then Kokorevo village was found in the navigator. Where a monument is broken ring. From there, turning left, after some time you will come to the Osinovka in the museum the road of life. In the navigator I had no such locality. The museum is very interesting if you are interested in a military theme.
Then in Dubrovka to the Nevsky Piglet and Kirovsk to the museum, the breakthrough of the blockade also went on the navigator to Kirovsk.
Take it with you.

tell me, pliz, we will be 3 full days in St. Petersburg, by car
Friday, Saturday, Sunday (this week)
Planned:
- Travel Peterhof-Oranienbaum, and M.B. Kronstadt
- Hermitage
- Just walking
Is it fundamentally different to visiting these places from the day of the week? (People, traffic on the roads)
or not bathe, because crowds will always))
Thank you

The last week showed that the people this year will be much, but I think, there will be no critical situations. The most problematic place is the Hermitage, everything else is quite passing. So, do not worry, but enjoy. Unfortunately, in 3 days to see it will be very small, but the choice of what can be seen will be huge.
For Peterhof is critical good weatherSo see the forecast on the eve of the evening, and if the sun is expected - first of all there. Take food and drink, everything is absolutely expensive. On the car on weekends there may be parking problems.

Parking in St. Petersburg is a problem, as in any city, overloaded by transport. Places for parking machines are clearly not enough for a five millionth city.

In connection with this government, the city has already adopted a bill that parking in the city center, including parking from the side of the roadway, will be paid.

Beware to leave the car in the zone of the "Stop forbidden" sign, even if other cars are already parked there. Your car can be evacuated on a stradition.

Comfortable parking places in the city center

In the center of St. Petersburg there are several underground parking lots. As a rule, they are located under large shopping centers (Stockmann, Gallery). The cost of 1 hour parking is about 150 rubles.

This protected parking is convenient if you want to walk to sightseeing or go to one of the restaurants in Nevsky Prospect. There are almost always places here, in contrast to the nearest free parking zones. The cost of 150 rubles per hour.

Parking on a stable area

Paid guarded parking is located next to the Savior Cathedral on the Blood and the largest souvenir market. The cost of 150 rubles per hour.

Parking on Pulkovo airport parking or Pulkovo-2 will cost approximately 100 rubles per hour and from 700 rubles per day.

Some free parking venues in the city center

Fine Parking Fines

Topical information about fines for other violation of the rules road Can be found on the traffic police website.

The cost of evacuation, which is about 3,000 rubles by law is paid by the owner of the car.

Be careful: in many places it is allowed to park only for even or odd days of the week. Violation of this regime entails the same sanctions as parking in forbidden place!

If you can not find a car where you left him:

Try to learn about the location of the car by phone +7812 680-33-33 or 004. For this number, the address and telephone number of the traffic police units will be reported in which it is necessary to obtain permission to issue it.

By phone, the traffic police must know where and when you can get permission to receive a detainee car. Get this permission can be possible after payment of the fine for incorrect parking.

If there is a written permission of the traffic police for issuance vehicle You can follow the specialized parking, and also with you a document certifying the person and a document confirming the right to own the delayed vehicle.

The Scientific Council of the Museum of the History of St. Petersburg supported the need to bring out all the varieties of transport from the territory of the Petropavlovsk fortress - both tourist and personal Museum staff. In return, the administration of the museum wants to create a separate car park from the walls of the fortress.

The Scientific Council of the Museum of the History of St. Petersburg 11 votes against five supported the decision on the need to bring out of the territory of the Petropavlovsk fortress of all varieties of transport - both tourist and personal Museum staff. In return, the administration of the museum wants to create a separate car park from the walls of the fortress.

Under the project, as stated by the director Petropavlovka Alexander Kolyakin, there is even a private investor who is ready to take on work. However, the longer the coordination procedure is expired, the greater the chances that the crisis will cause this anonymous sponsor to abandon the investment of money. Before agreement, there is still far - so far there is only a positive response of the traffic police and KBDX. The most difficult, as he admitted to the scientist of the Kolyakin, there is a conversation with the Committee on the Protection of Monuments.

It was approved and the place that the museum offers for the new parking lot. Several options were presented to the court of members of the scientist council. The first - from the side of the Arrow of the Vasilyevsky Island, at the current territory of the site for the occupation of civilian sports. The second - in front of Nikolsky Kurtin, between the zotov and golovka bastions. Just there is now a helicopter platform. As the director of the Petropavlovsk Fortress said, it is this option that is supported in KGIP. And the third option, which most like the leadership of the museum - in front of the Kronverk Kurtin, between Menshikov and Golovnaya bastions. This space is the largest - for parking you can select 4700 sq. M. meters vs. 2000 and 2700 square meters. meters in the first two cases. However, the reason here is not only in the volume of space. It was for this option that the scientist Council voted - "For" there were 8 people with one speaking against. Two other options did not find any supporter.

The problem with motor transport in the fortress is purely vital. As the head of the operating service of the Peter and Paul Fortress, 40 buses stop at the peak moments of the summer tourist season on the territory of the fortress. During the day they are passed to 200. In addition, the fortress is becoming increasingly filled with the personal car of the Mint of the Mint, the Museum itself, working on its territories of contractors and services. This does not improve the aesthetic state of the monument, and also does not better affect its safety. Drivers of buses, for example, do not even think fusey engines.

In recent years, spontaneous parking tourist transport Formed on Cathedral Square. However, after the EBRD (European Bank of Reconstruction and Development, which allocated about 500 million rubles) of the territory of the fortress, was decided to fully close it from the entry of cars. The fact is that archaeologists did not give good to deepening by more than 40 centimeters. Next, the cultural layer lies, to work with which special excavations and research are needed. But the investment projects of St. Petersburg, who allocated the money, did not launch any deadlines or funds. After long negotiations with archaeologists, they found a compromise. The work was carried out only at the surface, but now the area simply will not withstand the permanent flow of overall transport.

The temporary solution adopted by the Museum administration to bring transport to the Alekseevsky Ravelin district, during the same landscaping paved by granite, also turned out to be unsuccessful. Granite turned out to be fragile material, and also absorbing the whole fuel arcing from the buses from the buses (it is possible to clean it with the help of grinding - it is impossible to wash it). Now the pavement next to Alekseevsky has already been partially destroyed. In addition, there just do not put so many buses - more than 8 simultaneously simultaneously will not be included. Tourists began to plant on the embankments, where it is impossible to park and can not be dangerous. In addition, the elderly travelers are not easy to overcome this path. And they come for the most part elderly.

"Of the 5 million tourists, last year you visited Petersburg, a third visited the Petropavlovsk fortress. That is, our museum last year visited 1.5 million people. Half of them came on buses in the compositions of organized groups, "Deputy Director of the Museum Natalia Senko said colleagues. According to Alexander Kolyakina, this year, due to the crisis, this flow will become less. But in the interests of the museum, so that it is preserved. Since the authorities put museum workers before choosing - or dismiss employees, or start making money. So you need to offer tourists some convenience.

The main opponent of the idea of \u200b\u200bthe parking lot was the Architect Restorer Andrei Gutich, an employee of LenProektrastvivation (now he is working on the project of restoration of Ioannovsky Ravelin). It was he who compared the possible appearance of parking with metastases. In his opinion, official parking in the walls of the fortress will lead to the fact that the space around the Petropavlovka will begin spontaneously filling with cars. In addition, there are burial on two of the proposed places with which it is necessary to deal with archaeologists. And, it is quite possible, in general to assign a memorial status to the territory, which does not allow to create anything except green zones there. There were concerns about a serious deterioration of the environmental situation, and the problems that are waiting for Petropavlovka funds (parking will be directly under the windows of the museum storage). However, Alexander Kolyakin managed to convince the majority of members of the Council's scientist in their position. Whether it will be possible to convince other urban committees while a big question.

Why go. Big cities The world in which there are real vintage fortresses, you can recalculate on your fingers, and you will not have to eat. Petersburg is included in this short list, and not just enters, and proudly stands on the podium. Compete with him can except Belgrade, Oslo da Lisbon. The London Tower is quite small, Finnish Suomenlina is in the Bay, at the line on the horns, and look at it in the distance. And the Petropavlovsk fortress is located right in the city center - see how much you get.

How to get. Petropavlovsk fortress is stretched in length from the west to the East. Getting to her east entrance is most convenient from the metro station "Gorkovskaya", passing through a pleasant park. Also, tram routes 3 and 6, buses 46 and 49 are also passing through the desired area. It will have to go about 10 minutes on foot. Not far from the gate of the fortress pass routes of the bus 10 and trolleybus 7.

How to get. The fortress is surrounded, as it should be water. You can get on its territory either through Ioannovsky or through the Kronverk Bridge. The gates of the fortress are open daily from 9:30 to 21 hours, walking around the ring of walls on a harestine island can be longer during the day, from 6 to 22 hours. The entrance to the fortress is free, you only need to pay for visiting individual sights - the museum, the kebasets of Trubetskaya bastion, laid on the ridges of the walls of the Neva Panorama route, etc. Separate tickets Stand from 100 to 450. We were able to save by buying a comprehensive two-day ticket for 600 rubles. With it, you can visit the five most important exposures.

What to do. To pass through the gate (having raised not to damage the legs on the historic paving) and plunge into the atmosphere of the past. A hare island, which built a fortress, chose to book by Peter I. For this, ungrateful descendants were installed in the fortress a terrible monument to Shemyakin. It is difficult to imagine what a dyed fantasy need to have a mighty emperor to portray with a tiny head and skinny handles. Disgrace, to my surprise, is usually fascinated by tourists, without a branch of conscience, on the knees of Peter as at home for Selfie.

Another popular entertainment is a walk along the walls along the Neva. Nevskaya Panorama, as the route is called, allows you to see the panorama of the most beautiful piece of St. Petersburg. Just do not climb upside down at around noon: Exactly at 12 o'clock for many years from the Naryshkin Bastion, there is a bastard out of the gun. If at this moment to be nearby, the surprises of impressions will be eliminated.


I remember the route "Nevskaya Panorama", as in my childhood, the most oppressive impression was made by the tours of Trubetskaya Bastion, turned into a terrible prison. The conditions in which the prisoners of the fortress lived are capable of impressing anyone.

Interior premises of Trubetsky bastion look oppositely visiting all interesting objects, you need to go through the gate and bypass the fortress in a circle, combing the thickness of the walls. The strengthening was built on all the rules of military art of that time, Peter I personally followed the construction of construction. The bastions were specially placed at an angle to each other so that it was possible to shoot at the attacking opponent from all directions. The first fortifications were earthen, then they drove them with a stone. As it often happens, the efforts of builders and all expenses were in vain: for the entire existence of the Petropavlovsk fortress, she never had to enter into battle. Now it has been combined to relax in the free space: in summer the beach leaving for the Neva reminds the watershest of the cats. In winter, people are smaller, but "walruses", which are not afraid of frost, manage to sunbathe and swim in the corner.

Food.There is a cafe on the territory of the fortress and many kiosks selling drinks, food, etc. The prices can be judged by the fact that the floor-liter bottle of Coca-Cola, the red price of which is 25 rubles, is usually sold for 90.